MSDE SQL Agent Wont Start

Hi,
I have installed the MSDE and use mixed mode authenticaton.
The SQL Server Agent will not start due to login failures.
Normally, I would use the Enterprise Manager Managment wizard to
correct the System Account and Connection Credentials.

Can anyone tell me how to achieve this using OSQL?

Thanksthat'll be a long and very painful road...are you sure you want to go there?|||The other way to fix the SQLAgent account is through Windows Control Panel. You need "Services", one way to get to it is: Control Panel -> Administrative Tools -> Computer Management ... Services and Applications .. Services. There you can change the Properties of MSSQLAgent .|||Originally posted by ms_sql_dba
that'll be a long and very painful road...are you sure you want to go there?

We essentially have 2 systems in place. One system is a full blown installation of SQL Server 2000 (standard edition) on a server pc running windows 2000 server. This implementation includes the enterprise manager and query analyzer etc.

The second system (due to cost concern) uses MSDE with the same database and files. We do this so we can run our control system on a windows 2000 professional OS and hence keep the costs down.

I have no problem getting the SQLAgent running on a full system because I have the enterprise manager and its wizards to configure security and credentials for it. On the MSDE win2000 pro setup I do not have the tools and hence am forced to manipulate the configuration via OSQL - I will try using the control panel and services to configure it, but I am looking for a way to send the configuration via an OSQL (T-SQL script) that sets the services security to system account (Administrator) and the database login security to the SA account.

Thanks again|||Originally posted by ClayG
The other way to fix the SQLAgent account is through Windows Control Panel. You need "Services", one way to get to it is: Control Panel -> Administrative Tools -> Computer Management ... Services and Applications .. Services. There you can change the Properties of MSSQLAgent .

If I go to Administrative tools and services under SQLSERVERAGENT and properties, I can configure the security under the LOG ON tab to Local System Account. I have done this to no avail. I believe the problem exists with the fact that I use mixed mode authentication for SQL Server 2000. Using the Management Wizard under the Connection Tab, I need to specify the log in to the SQL database instance under the SA account with its respective password.
The service properties do not provide a means of specifying the credentials for the SQL Server Instance and database connection.

Regards and Thanks|||Enterprise manager should be able to talk to an MSDE instance. Is the MSDE instance not available to you, so you need to write a script?|||Originally posted by MCrowley
Enterprise manager should be able to talk to an MSDE instance. Is the MSDE instance not available to you, so you need to write a script?

Enterprise Manager is not installed- Since we are using Windows 2000 professional for this machine - which is stand alone and a completely different project. We chose to install MSDE with our standard database loaded in. I have no tools on the machine like enterprise manager to fix the issues. I need a means of deploying the security when no tools exist.

I did a search and found the following on a google group search - to which my response was as follows:

Good Afternoon,

I found your email through google_groups where you indicated the following to a user:
SQLServerAgent needs to be able to connect to SQL Server upon starting. See any errors in the sqlagent.out file. When you look in the Logins folder in Enterprise Manager, the BUILTIN\Administrators group must be granted access to the server. If the group has been removed or denied access, SQLServerAgent won't start
Sade Fashokun
SQL Server Support

My question if you don't mind answering it is as follows:

I am using MSDE on a windows 2000 professional OS installation with a default instance. SQL Server Agent will not start with the following error in the log:
Login Failed for User 'SCADA\Administrator' --

I am using mixed mode authentication and normally I would use the management wizard in Enterprise Manager under the Connection Tab to specify the SQL Agent Login
as the SA account and respective password. I do not want the Agent to Attempt a login through the windows Adminstrator account but instead through the SA or
other Database Security account.

Can you tell me how to change the Agent using OSQL etc. as I do not have the enterprise manager with MSDE -- to force it to use the SA account for the Sql Server Instance instead of the Window System Account the same as I would using the Management Wizard.|||You stated you have a full-blown installation of SQL Server (including tools). Just register your MSDE instance in the Enterprise Manager on that system. All you need is a network connection between the two boxes.|||Originally posted by MCrowley
You stated you have a full-blown installation of SQL Server (including tools). Just register your MSDE instance in the Enterprise Manager on that system. All you need is a network connection between the two boxes.

Okay, I understand that, I will try it out.
However, assume that I do not have such a system.
Is there a way to accomplish it without making such a connection
altering the login information for the agent via osql.

MSDE login problem - Windows

I'm confused.
OS = Win XP Pro
I installed MSDE2000A on a new laptop using mixed security - Windows and
SQL. Everything went fine. At the time my everyday Windows user account wa
s
set up as a Windows (not SQL) administrator, so that I could get some other
software installed, too.
I subsequently changed my Windows user account to be a power user and NOT a
Windows administrator and now I cannot connect to MSDE with that Windows
account. If I switch the account back to Windows adminstrator all is well
with MSDE.
How can I coax MSDE to recognize this user account when it is no longer a
Windows administrator?Add your windows account to the Logins for MSDE. You are
getting in due to the default behavior of SQL Server adding
BUILTIN\Administrators as a login. That would include all
logins that are members of the local admins group.
You can add your login using sp_grantlogin. You can find
more information in books online.
-Sue
On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 08:07:04 -0800, "Duke Carey"
<DukeCarey@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>I'm confused.
>OS = Win XP Pro
>I installed MSDE2000A on a new laptop using mixed security - Windows and
>SQL. Everything went fine. At the time my everyday Windows user account w
as
>set up as a Windows (not SQL) administrator, so that I could get some other
>software installed, too.
>I subsequently changed my Windows user account to be a power user and NOT a
>Windows administrator and now I cannot connect to MSDE with that Windows
>account. If I switch the account back to Windows adminstrator all is well
>with MSDE.
>How can I coax MSDE to recognize this user account when it is no longer a
>Windows administrator?
>|||Sue -
Thanks for the guidance, but it looks like sp_grantlogin requires me to use
a domain name. The laptop is not part of a domain. Is there a workaround
for that?
"Sue Hoegemeier" wrote:

> Add your windows account to the Logins for MSDE. You are
> getting in due to the default behavior of SQL Server adding
> BUILTIN\Administrators as a login. That would include all
> logins that are members of the local admins group.
> You can add your login using sp_grantlogin. You can find
> more information in books online.
> -Sue
> On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 08:07:04 -0800, "Duke Carey"
> <DukeCarey@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>|||If you are logging into the laptop using a local account,
you would use:
MachineName\LoginName
-Sue
On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 16:29:02 -0800, "Duke Carey"
<DukeCarey@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
>Sue -
>Thanks for the guidance, but it looks like sp_grantlogin requires me to use
>a domain name. The laptop is not part of a domain. Is there a workaround
>for that?
>"Sue Hoegemeier" wrote:
>|||Sue -
I logged in to the laptop as Administrator and was automatically logged in
to MSDE. Within MSDE I then ran EXEC sp_grantlogin 'pc_name\duke' and it ra
n
successfully.
However, after logging in as Duke *without Windows administrator rights* I
was still unable to login to MSDE.
I have to be so dense, but what am I missing?
Duke
"Sue Hoegemeier" wrote:

> If you are logging into the laptop using a local account,
> you would use:
> MachineName\LoginName
> -Sue
> On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 16:29:02 -0800, "Duke Carey"
> <DukeCarey@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>|||If the login is there, you should be able to at least
connect.
So when you log in as Duke and try to log in to MSDE, what
is the exact error message - all the details?
-Sue
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 08:24:04 -0800, "Duke Carey"
<DukeCarey@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
>Sue -
>I logged in to the laptop as Administrator and was automatically logged in
>to MSDE. Within MSDE I then ran EXEC sp_grantlogin 'pc_name\duke' and it r
an
>successfully.
>However, after logging in as Duke *without Windows administrator rights* I
>was still unable to login to MSDE.
>I have to be so dense, but what am I missing?
>Duke
>"Sue Hoegemeier" wrote:
>|||Sue -
There are no error messages as such
What is happening is that the SQL Service Mgr in the systray shows an empty
circle. When I open it I have to type in the pc name and select SQL Server
as the service. It then shows that it is already running. When I go into
MSDE Manager (Vale Software's management tool), it shows me logged in as
guest. It also shows the database owner (there's only one user database so
far) as hp_notebook\duke and says that I do not have permisssion to access
that database
If I grant my Windows login Windows Administrator status, MSDE starts fine
and I log in to the MSDE as myself
I don't know enough to provide you more helpful information
"Sue Hoegemeier" <Sue_H@.nomail.please> wrote in message
news:1q00t11aka3drrkih9ev7rofpbidk5c6dr@.
4ax.com...
> If the login is there, you should be able to at least
> connect.
> So when you log in as Duke and try to log in to MSDE, what
> is the exact error message - all the details?
> -Sue
>|||Okay...so you get on the server but can't do anything in
that database or can't access the database.
Add your Duke login as a user in the database using
sp_grantdbaccess.
If you need that login to be able to do anything and
everything on the MSDE instance, you can add that login to
the sysadmins server role using:
EXEC sp_addsrvrolemember 'pc_name\duke', 'sysadmin'
-Sue
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:02:51 -0500, "Duke Carey"
<dukecarey@.hotmail.com> wrote:

> When I go into
>MSDE Manager (Vale Software's management tool), it shows me logged in as
>guest. It also shows the database owner (there's only one user database so
>far) as hp_notebook\duke and says that I do not have permisssion to access
>that database|||Sue -
Thanks for sticking with me. It appears that things are working correctly
now.
EXEC sp_addsrvrolemember 'pc_name\duke', 'sysadmin' seems to have done the
trick.
"Sue Hoegemeier" wrote:

> Okay...so you get on the server but can't do anything in
> that database or can't access the database.
> Add your Duke login as a user in the database using
> sp_grantdbaccess.
> If you need that login to be able to do anything and
> everything on the MSDE instance, you can add that login to
> the sysadmins server role using:
> EXEC sp_addsrvrolemember 'pc_name\duke', 'sysadmin'
> -Sue
> On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:02:51 -0500, "Duke Carey"
> <dukecarey@.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>|||Good to hear it's all working now - thanks for posting back!
-Sue
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 06:31:04 -0800, "Duke Carey"
<DukeCarey@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
>Sue -
>Thanks for sticking with me. It appears that things are working correctly
>now.
>EXEC sp_addsrvrolemember 'pc_name\duke', 'sysadmin' seems to have done the
>trick.
>
>"Sue Hoegemeier" wrote:
>

MSDE login problem

After installing MSDE 2000 in mixed mode local access worked fine.
Accessing through network with enterprice manager at first didn't work.
Fixed by activating network protocols "TCP/IP" and "Named pipes" in database properties.
But only the first time. After that login by SQL user and password is denied after restart local MSDE machine.

Anyone know why?

thanks in advanceAfter that login by SQL user and password is denied after restart local MSDE machine

With this I mean access from other machines on the network. Local login is working ok.|||Solution found!

Install MSDE again with DISABLENETWORKPROTOCOLS=0.
Changing it afterwards with SQL Server enterprice manager doesn't work.

just for those who are having the same problem

MSDE HELP

Hi,
I have 2 PCs that aren't in any domain.
One of PCs, have installed on MSDE. I change the authentication
mode from windows to mixed mode.
Created users inside MSDE.
In the PC with MSDE I can enter with all users, but in the other PC I could
not connect to the server.
I tried to register in Enterprise Manager that MSDE instalation and I get
the following error
SQL Server Enterprise Manager
SQL Server registration failed because of the connection failure displayed
below. Do you wish to Register anyway?
SQL Server does not exist or access denied.
ConnectionOpen (Connect())
Yes No
I already add the TCP 1433 and UDP 1434 ports to windows firewal, I tried to
with the firewall disconected and i get always the same error.
So I think the problem could be in permissions, but how can I set permisons
in one computer to a user from another computer. Don't forget that the pcs
aren't in any domain.
Or how can I put on PC connecting to the MSDE in the other PC?
thanks
Mestre
hi Mestre,
Mestre wrote:
> Hi,
> I have 2 PCs that aren't in any domain.
> One of PCs, have installed on MSDE. I change the authentication
> mode from windows to mixed mode.
> Created users inside MSDE.
> In the PC with MSDE I can enter with all users, but in the other PC I
> could not connect to the server.
> I tried to register in Enterprise Manager that MSDE instalation and I
> get the following error
> --
> SQL Server Enterprise Manager
> --
> SQL Server registration failed because of the connection failure
> displayed below. Do you wish to Register anyway?
> SQL Server does not exist or access denied.
> ConnectionOpen (Connect())
> --
> Yes No
> --
>
> I already add the TCP 1433 and UDP 1434 ports to windows firewal, I
> tried to with the firewall disconected and i get always the same
> error.
> So I think the problem could be in permissions, but how can I set
> permisons in one computer to a user from another computer. Don't
> forget that the pcs aren't in any domain.
> Or how can I put on PC connecting to the MSDE in the other PC?
please have a look at
http://support.microsoft.com/default...06&Product=sql
for the most common causes of this exception.. and of course please verify
that remote access to the instance is enabled with the Server Network
Utility (svrnetcn.exe) as MSDE installs by default disabling all network
protocols...
Andrea Montanari (Microsoft MVP - SQL Server)
http://www.asql.biz/DbaMgr.shtmhttp://italy.mvps.org
DbaMgr2k ver 0.16.0 - DbaMgr ver 0.61.0
(my vb6+sql-dmo little try to provide MS MSDE 1.0 and MSDE 2000 a visual
interface)
-- remove DMO to reply
|||Andrea,
you're right. I discover that, but I ony have time to update the posts
today.
Thanks,
Mestre
"Andrea Montanari" <andrea.sqlDMO@.virgilio.it> wrote in message
news:4271egF1hrbv5U1@.individual.net...
> hi Mestre,
> Mestre wrote:
> please have a look at
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...06&Product=sql
> for the most common causes of this exception.. and of course please verify
> that remote access to the instance is enabled with the Server Network
> Utility (svrnetcn.exe) as MSDE installs by default disabling all network
> protocols...
> --
> Andrea Montanari (Microsoft MVP - SQL Server)
> http://www.asql.biz/DbaMgr.shtmhttp://italy.mvps.org
> DbaMgr2k ver 0.16.0 - DbaMgr ver 0.61.0
> (my vb6+sql-dmo little try to provide MS MSDE 1.0 and MSDE 2000 a visual
> interface)
> -- remove DMO to reply
>