Showing posts with label entry. Show all posts
Showing posts with label entry. Show all posts

Monday, March 19, 2012

MSDE management

When I install msde on a W2K professional and go into My Computer/manage and
click on Services and Applications, it shows a MS Sql Server entry from which
I can manage msde. When I install on W2003 server, it's not there. Is this
by design ?
hi,
Dave Mc wrote:
> When I install msde on a W2K professional and go into My
> Computer/manage and click on Services and Applications, it shows a MS
> Sql Server entry from which I can manage msde. When I install on
> W2003 server, it's not there. Is this by design ?
Start -> Administrative Tools-> Services
Start -> Control Panel-> Administrative Tools-> Services
Start -> All Programs-> Administrative Tools-> Services
Start -> My Computer-> Change a setting-> Administrative Tools-> Services
Andrea Montanari (Microsoft MVP - SQL Server)
http://www.asql.biz/DbaMgr.shtmhttp://italy.mvps.org
DbaMgr2k ver 0.10.0 - DbaMgr ver 0.56.0
(my vb6+sql-dmo little try to provide MS MSDE 1.0 and MSDE 2000 a visual
interface)
-- remove DMO to reply
|||I guess I didn't make it clear. The service is there on my W2003 server.
What's different is on my W2k pro, under My Computer/Manage/Services and
Applications, It shows Microsoft SQL Servers/MYLOCALSERVER/ then all the
"normal" Enterprise Manager items -- Databases, Maintenance Plans, etc. As
far as I know, MSDE is the only SQL ever installed on my workstation. When I
do an MSDE install on the server, though, the service is there and running
but I don't get the management tools as above. I was surprised when I saw
them on my workstation because I thought to manage msde, you were either
stuck with command line osql statements or third party "Enterprise Manager
like" management tools. So, I'm a little confused.
Thanks
"Andrea Montanari" wrote:

> hi,
> Dave Mc wrote:
> Start -> Administrative Tools-> Services
> Start -> Control Panel-> Administrative Tools-> Services
> Start -> All Programs-> Administrative Tools-> Services
> Start -> My Computer-> Change a setting-> Administrative Tools-> Services
> --
> Andrea Montanari (Microsoft MVP - SQL Server)
> http://www.asql.biz/DbaMgr.shtmhttp://italy.mvps.org
> DbaMgr2k ver 0.10.0 - DbaMgr ver 0.56.0
> (my vb6+sql-dmo little try to provide MS MSDE 1.0 and MSDE 2000 a visual
> interface)
> -- remove DMO to reply
>
>
|||hi Dave,
Dave Mc wrote:
> I guess I didn't make it clear. The service is there on my W2003
> server. What's different is on my W2k pro, under My
> Computer/Manage/Services and Applications, It shows Microsoft SQL
> Servers/MYLOCALSERVER/ then all the "normal" Enterprise Manager
> items -- Databases, Maintenance Plans, etc. As far as I know, MSDE
> is the only SQL ever installed on my workstation. When I do an MSDE
> install on the server, though, the service is there and running but
> I don't get the management tools as above. I was surprised when I
> saw them on my workstation because I thought to manage msde, you were
> either stuck with command line osql statements or third party
> "Enterprise Manager like" management tools. So, I'm a little
> confused.
> Thanks
MSDE comes with no management tool but oSql.exe, the command line tool, full
stop.
if you find them on your pc(s), they have been arbitrarily installed by the
SQL Server CD-Rom and no other way..

Andrea Montanari (Microsoft MVP - SQL Server)
http://www.asql.biz/DbaMgr.shtmhttp://italy.mvps.org
DbaMgr2k ver 0.10.0 - DbaMgr ver 0.56.0
(my vb6+sql-dmo little try to provide MS MSDE 1.0 and MSDE 2000 a visual
interface)
-- remove DMO to reply
|||You are right. I did some more checking and found that someone had been
doing development on this pc and installed sql 2000 from their msdn cd. Now,
my question is, am I violating a license agreement if I just install Client
Tools from a SQL cd even though I am only installing msde ?
Thanks
"Andrea Montanari" wrote:

> hi Dave,
> Dave Mc wrote:
> MSDE comes with no management tool but oSql.exe, the command line tool, full
> stop.
> if you find them on your pc(s), they have been arbitrarily installed by the
> SQL Server CD-Rom and no other way..
>
> --
> Andrea Montanari (Microsoft MVP - SQL Server)
> http://www.asql.biz/DbaMgr.shtmhttp://italy.mvps.org
> DbaMgr2k ver 0.10.0 - DbaMgr ver 0.56.0
> (my vb6+sql-dmo little try to provide MS MSDE 1.0 and MSDE 2000 a visual
> interface)
> -- remove DMO to reply
>
>
|||hi Dave,
Dave Mc wrote:
> You are right. I did some more checking and found that someone had
> been doing development on this pc and installed sql 2000 from their
> msdn cd. Now, my question is, am I violating a license agreement if
> I just install Client Tools from a SQL cd even though I am only
> installing msde ?
AFAIK, unfortunately YES...
in order to manage MSDE instance, you can only rely on self made tools or
third arty tools, but not on SQL Server Client Tools..
please have a look at this post, http://tinyurl.com/4u2zh , by a Microsoft
representative
Andrea Montanari (Microsoft MVP - SQL Server)
http://www.asql.biz/DbaMgr.shtmhttp://italy.mvps.org
DbaMgr2k ver 0.10.0 - DbaMgr ver 0.56.0
(my vb6+sql-dmo little try to provide MS MSDE 1.0 and MSDE 2000 a visual
interface)
-- remove DMO to reply

Friday, March 9, 2012

MSDE installation fails due to detection of previous installation

Please help,

I am trying to install MSDE 2000 so that Backup exec will run on this
server. I have gotten so far as to find an entry in my SQLSTP.TXT file
that says that c:\mssql7 was detected so the install fails.

Now, to start with there is no directory called C:\mssql7 on this
server. I have gone through all MS articles on manual removal of SQL
server and instances. I have searched the registry for mssql7 and
removed any keys that matched, as per MS article I have searched on
SQLBOOT.dll and it is not present anywhere on my system and I still get
the same results.

2:07:44 Begin Action: Detection
12:07:44 SQL Server version already installed: 7.00.623
12:07:44 Previous Install SQL Path: C:\MSSQL7
12:07:44 Previous Install SQL Data Path: C:\MSSQL7
12:07:44 End Action Detection
12:07:44 Begin Action: ODBCLocked
12:07:44 End Action ODBCLocked
12:07:44 GetDefinition returned: 1
12:07:44 Previous SQL Server ProductType: MSDE [0x4]
12:07:44 This combination of Package and Operating System allows a full
product install.

can anyone think of anything here..

what else could be causing the server to think there is a previous
version of SQL 7 on this box!!!?Hi

Have you looked at the services running using NET START?

You may want to try a registry cleaning tool.

I assume you have seen
http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...kb;en-us;276044
This may help http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...kb;en-us;320873

Have you tried specifying and instance name for the installation?

John

<jdisco@.gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1112988946.699106.224300@.o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
> Please help,
> I am trying to install MSDE 2000 so that Backup exec will run on this
> server. I have gotten so far as to find an entry in my SQLSTP.TXT file
> that says that c:\mssql7 was detected so the install fails.
> Now, to start with there is no directory called C:\mssql7 on this
> server. I have gone through all MS articles on manual removal of SQL
> server and instances. I have searched the registry for mssql7 and
> removed any keys that matched, as per MS article I have searched on
> SQLBOOT.dll and it is not present anywhere on my system and I still get
> the same results.
>
> 2:07:44 Begin Action: Detection
> 12:07:44 SQL Server version already installed: 7.00.623
> 12:07:44 Previous Install SQL Path: C:\MSSQL7
> 12:07:44 Previous Install SQL Data Path: C:\MSSQL7
> 12:07:44 End Action Detection
> 12:07:44 Begin Action: ODBCLocked
> 12:07:44 End Action ODBCLocked
> 12:07:44 GetDefinition returned: 1
> 12:07:44 Previous SQL Server ProductType: MSDE [0x4]
> 12:07:44 This combination of Package and Operating System allows a full
> product install.
>
> can anyone think of anything here..
> what else could be causing the server to think there is a previous
> version of SQL 7 on this box!!!?