MSDE on Vista

Hi
I know that MS SQL Server 2000 versions (including MSDE) are not
supported on Windows Vista, but still I'd like to ask if anyone knows
why when MSDE is installed on Vista, each time after a user logs in
to Windows, the instalation dialog appears for few seconds.
The dialog title is the MSDE product name ("Microsoft SQL Server
Desktop Engine". The text in dialog is "Please wait while Windows
configures Microsoft SQL Server Desktop Engine". The dialog appears
regardless of UAC being on or off. Same dialog appears on Windows
Vista Basic and Windows Vista Premium.
If you know anything about it (how to get rid of it would be
great), then please do not hesitate to post here.
Hilarion
JPD <nospam@.nospam.com> wrote:
> As you said, MSDE is not supported on Windows Vista.
So? Does that mean that no one knows anything about MS SQL Server 2000
on Vista? I'm not asking for Microsoft's support help, I just hope that
someone out there had the same issue and figured out what is causing it
and how to deal with it.
I'd be grateful for any suggestions and/or ideas.

> Why don't you just download SQL Server 2005 Express? After all it is free.
The app, that I'm forced to use, uses MS SQL Server and is only supported
with 2000 edition.
I know that the problem I described does not appear with MS SQL 2005.
I know that Express Edition is free. I know how to install it on Vista
and how to copy the databases from MSDE to 2005 EE. I know how to ensure
that backward compatibility components (like SQL DMO) are installed,
but still I'd prefer not to be forced to move to 2005.
Hilarion
PS.: AFAIK MS SQL Server 2005 will officially be supported on Vista from
SP2 version (of MS SQL, not Vista), so the current version is not,
just as MSDE.
|||Hilarion,
SQL Server versions prior to SQL Server 2005 SP2 are not supported on Vista.
RLF
"Hilarion" <hilarion@.nomail.nospam> wrote in message
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> JPD <nospam@.nospam.com> wrote:
> So? Does that mean that no one knows anything about MS SQL Server 2000
> on Vista? I'm not asking for Microsoft's support help, I just hope that
> someone out there had the same issue and figured out what is causing it
> and how to deal with it.
> I'd be grateful for any suggestions and/or ideas.
>
> The app, that I'm forced to use, uses MS SQL Server and is only supported
> with 2000 edition.
> I know that the problem I described does not appear with MS SQL 2005.
> I know that Express Edition is free. I know how to install it on Vista
> and how to copy the databases from MSDE to 2005 EE. I know how to ensure
> that backward compatibility components (like SQL DMO) are installed,
> but still I'd prefer not to be forced to move to 2005.
>
> Hilarion
> PS.: AFAIK MS SQL Server 2005 will officially be supported on Vista from
> SP2 version (of MS SQL, not Vista), so the current version is not,
> just as MSDE.
|||Russell Fields <russellfields@.nomail.com> wrote:
> SQL Server versions prior to SQL Server 2005 SP2 are not supported on Vista.
Is it not what I wrote here:
[vbcol=seagreen]
If you are referring to this:
[vbcol=seagreen]
then you are right, the current version IS supported. I somehow missed
SP2 release. My fault.
Hilarion
|||JPD <nospam@.nospam.com> wrote:
> FYI. SP2 for SQL Server 2005 has been released some time ago.
Yes, you are right. I somehow missed it's release. I apologise.
Still, the app I'm forced to use is not supported with SQL
Server 2005, so still I'd be grateful for any info regarding
strange behavior of MSDE on Vista.
Hilarion
|||Hilarion,
I believe we are saying we do not know how to get rid of the message since
MSDE (which is a version of SQL Server 2000) is not supported on Vista.
Why not? This has to do with the new security enhancements in Vista (I do
not remember the details) which is why even SQL Server 2005 needs SP2 in
order to work.
If you must continue to use MSDE, then you cannot use Vista. Scale back to
Windows XP.
RLF
"Hilarion" <hilarion@.nomail.nospam> wrote in message
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> JPD <nospam@.nospam.com> wrote:
> Yes, you are right. I somehow missed it's release. I apologise.
> Still, the app I'm forced to use is not supported with SQL
> Server 2005, so still I'd be grateful for any info regarding
> strange behavior of MSDE on Vista.
>
> Hilarion
|||Or run that Vista-incompatible app in a Xp VPC on Vista. I do this for an
old version of QuickBooks we still use.
Ginny
"Russell Fields" <russellfields@.nomail.com> wrote in message
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> Hilarion,
> I believe we are saying we do not know how to get rid of the message since
> MSDE (which is a version of SQL Server 2000) is not supported on Vista.
> Why not? This has to do with the new security enhancements in Vista (I do
> not remember the details) which is why even SQL Server 2005 needs SP2 in
> order to work.
> If you must continue to use MSDE, then you cannot use Vista. Scale back
> to Windows XP.
> RLF
> "Hilarion" <hilarion@.nomail.nospam> wrote in message
> news:uvBhrPTyHHA.4928@.TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
|||Hi
Russell Fields wrote:
> I believe we are saying we do not know how to get rid of the message since
> MSDE (which is a version of SQL Server 2000) is not supported on Vista.
> Why not? This has to do with the new security enhancements in Vista (I do
> not remember the details) which is why even SQL Server 2005 needs SP2 in
> order to work.
I know that there are reasons behind no support for MS SQL 2000 on Vista
and I'm not arguing them nor the decision not to support it. I was just
asking if anyone knows the cause of described behavior.
The said instance of MSDE seems to be working fine on my Vista (regardless
of UAC being on or off). The only thing is this, and it looks like it's
related to the MSDE installation package, not to the MSDE itself.

> If you must continue to use MSDE, then you cannot use Vista. Scale back to
> Windows XP.
Can't. Have no license for Windows XP anymore.
Thank you for your feedback anyway, and I hope for more.
Hilarion
|||Ginny Caughey [MVP] wrote:
> Or run that Vista-incompatible app in a Xp VPC on Vista. I do this for an
> old version of QuickBooks we still use.
I still need license on Windows XP to use it VPC environment.
I'm stuck with Vista (and it - the Vista - really starts to annoy me,
and lack of support for MSDE on it is not the key issue here).
Thank you for your feedback anyway, and I hope for new ideas.
Hilarion
|||It appears that some registry entry that confirms that the installation is
completed is either not set or is missing altogether. Why check reg entries
for MSDE / Installation etc.
Microsoft should have supported at least MSDE 2000 on Vista. Though Vista
has major changes, it should have supported at least 1 version down the
compatibility tree. I don't think corporations are jumping in transition to
Vista. It took my company 4 years to give me an XP machine. Though making
Vista incompatible down the versions gets me some $$ as consultant, at
personal level I am also at loss as many of applications on my personal
laptop don't work with Vista. I don't know if any VB6 code works on it
(anyway that is not relevant to this newsgroup).
ThanQ...
"Hilarion" wrote:

> Hi
> Russell Fields wrote:
> I know that there are reasons behind no support for MS SQL 2000 on Vista
> and I'm not arguing them nor the decision not to support it. I was just
> asking if anyone knows the cause of described behavior.
> The said instance of MSDE seems to be working fine on my Vista (regardless
> of UAC being on or off). The only thing is this, and it looks like it's
> related to the MSDE installation package, not to the MSDE itself.
>
> Can't. Have no license for Windows XP anymore.
> Thank you for your feedback anyway, and I hope for more.
>
> Hilarion
>