MSDE on a Dedicated Webserver

Hi, our company is running a couple of java based applications on a dedicated webserver. We are interested in running the Rainbow Portal on this server as well (as a public website), but the actual owner of the server doesn't want to outlay the cash for S
QL Server at the moment. Would it be legal for us to install MSDE on this webserver to use as the database engine for the Rainbow Portal? (bearing in mind that it's a dedicated webserver, and that there would only be one instance of MSDE, and probably onl
y one database)
Sounds like it would be ok, but check the information at this link.
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/msde/howtobuy/msdeuse.asp
Jim
"Nicholas Smeaton" <nsmeaton@.footbag.org> wrote in message
news:89AA18C5-9A3B-47CE-914B-9DC0263196BD@.microsoft.com...
> Hi, our company is running a couple of java based applications on a
dedicated webserver. We are interested in running the Rainbow Portal on this
server as well (as a public website), but the actual owner of the server
doesn't want to outlay the cash for SQL Server at the moment. Would it be
legal for us to install MSDE on this webserver to use as the database engine
for the Rainbow Portal? (bearing in mind that it's a dedicated webserver,
and that there would only be one instance of MSDE, and probably only one
database)
|||Thanks Jim, but I'm still a bit hazy on the details. The "Appropriate Uses of MSDE FAQ" page says it's appropriate to use it as a database for a website, but the EULA says: "NO RENTAL/COMMERCIAL HOSTING". Seems a bit contradictory, and I need to be absolu
tely sure. I guess it'll be the owner of the dedicated webserver that'll be offering it to our company, but they won't be charging us to use it, and we'll be the only one's using it. It *sounds* like it should be ok, but can someone give me a definitive y
ea or nay?
|||IMHO u cant legally use MSDE in this situation
"Nicholas Smeaton" <nsmeaton@.footbag.org> wrote in message
news:89AA18C5-9A3B-47CE-914B-9DC0263196BD@.microsoft.com...
> Hi, our company is running a couple of java based applications on a
dedicated webserver. We are interested in running the Rainbow Portal on this
server as well (as a public website), but the actual owner of the server
doesn't want to outlay the cash for SQL Server at the moment. Would it be
legal for us to install MSDE on this webserver to use as the database engine
for the Rainbow Portal? (bearing in mind that it's a dedicated webserver,
and that there would only be one instance of MSDE, and probably only one
database)
|||John,
MS changed licensing for MSDE a while ago. Nowadays, it is "free". As far as I can read below URL, using MSDE
in the scenario described would be OK...
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/msde/howtobuy/msdeuse.asp
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
"John Smith" <a__@.abv.bg> wrote in message news:uEW7yg0NEHA.3672@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> IMHO u cant legally use MSDE in this situation
>
> "Nicholas Smeaton" <nsmeaton@.footbag.org> wrote in message
> news:89AA18C5-9A3B-47CE-914B-9DC0263196BD@.microsoft.com...
> dedicated webserver. We are interested in running the Rainbow Portal on this
> server as well (as a public website), but the actual owner of the server
> doesn't want to outlay the cash for SQL Server at the moment. Would it be
> legal for us to install MSDE on this webserver to use as the database engine
> for the Rainbow Portal? (bearing in mind that it's a dedicated webserver,
> and that there would only be one instance of MSDE, and probably only one
> database)
>
|||but what about this: "
Q. How do I acquire rights to deploy MSDE throughout my company?
A. The following products allow you to deploy MSDE throughout your
organization:
a.. MSDN Universal, Enterprise, and Professional subscriptions
b.. SQL Server 2000 Developer, Standard, and Enterprise Editions
c.. Visual Studio .NET Architect, Developer, and Professional
Editions
d.. Visual FoxPro 7.0 or 8.0
Note: Microsoft Access only provides rights to use MSDE on the device
on which Microsoft Access is installed.
"
"Tibor Karaszi" <tibor_please.no.email_karaszi@.hotmail.nomail.com> wrote in
message news:Oxouso0NEHA.3264@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> John,
> MS changed licensing for MSDE a while ago. Nowadays, it is "free". As far
as I can read below URL, using MSDE
> in the scenario described would be OK...
> http://www.microsoft.com/sql/msde/howtobuy/msdeuse.asp
> --
> Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
> http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
>
> "John Smith" <a__@.abv.bg> wrote in message
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|||Yes, I asked MS to clarify that point, something they apparently didn't do. My assumption is that it is either
a leftover or it refers to re-distributing within your own organization...
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
"John Smith" <a__@.abv.bg> wrote in message news:eYfrXi%23NEHA.3348@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> but what about this: "
> Q. How do I acquire rights to deploy MSDE throughout my company?
> A. The following products allow you to deploy MSDE throughout your
> organization:
> a.. MSDN Universal, Enterprise, and Professional subscriptions
> b.. SQL Server 2000 Developer, Standard, and Enterprise Editions
> c.. Visual Studio .NET Architect, Developer, and Professional
> Editions
> d.. Visual FoxPro 7.0 or 8.0
> Note: Microsoft Access only provides rights to use MSDE on the device
> on which Microsoft Access is installed.
> "
>
> "Tibor Karaszi" <tibor_please.no.email_karaszi@.hotmail.nomail.com> wrote in
> message news:Oxouso0NEHA.3264@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> as I can read below URL, using MSDE
> news:uEW7yg0NEHA.3672@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> this
> be
> engine
> webserver,
>
>
|||if u get an answer post it here plz
"Tibor Karaszi" <tibor_please.no.email_karaszi@.hotmail.nomail.com> wrote in
message news:OB2Hqx%23NEHA.3012@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Yes, I asked MS to clarify that point, something they apparently didn't
do. My assumption is that it is either
> a leftover or it refers to re-distributing within your own organization...
> --
> Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
> http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
|||I asked again last week, but I didn't get a reply yet. Probably an MS representative or below is the best bet:
"To speak to someone regarding licensing:
You can call 1-800-426-9400 (select option 4), Monday through Friday, 6:00
A.M. to 6:00 P.M. (PST) to speak directly to a Microsoft licensing
specialist for licensing problem. Worldwide customers can use the Guide to
Worldwide Microsoft Licensing Sites
http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/index/worldwide.asp to find contact
information in their locations."
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
"John Smith" <a__@.abv.bg> wrote in message news:%23aOzQ0%23NEHA.4036@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> if u get an answer post it here plz
> "Tibor Karaszi" <tibor_please.no.email_karaszi@.hotmail.nomail.com> wrote in
> message news:OB2Hqx%23NEHA.3012@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> do. My assumption is that it is either
>